Dreams.

Nov. 29th, 2008 11:08 am
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Normal people dream normal things.

I seem to constantly dream the abnormal, at least in relation to what most other do. So I dreamt of the evils of the Target Corporation that I experienced over several years, finally multiplying on itself and causing an employee to go postal in a store. Sadly, the end result wasn't traced back to the source of employee's distress and no changes were made - it was blamed on inherent psychosis and the business practices continued as usual.

Second round of dreaming involved a huge worldwide apocalypse, and trying to survive it.

Sometimes it's nice because it gives me interesting ideas to write about or roleplay. Today, however, is one of those times where instead of feeling rested, I feel more exhausted, depressed, and pessimistic than usual.

Makes it even funnier than I now have to venture into the nearby Target to restock some essentials I need. I suppose on the positive side, I'm one of those rare people now who is actually thoughtful to and sympathetic of salesclerks. Having been through that hell, I try to bright a little light to their day, or at least be one less crabby jerk they have to deal with.

I honestly think every adult, working person should be forced to spend at least 6 months working retail - preferably the worst retail position available. I think less people would thoughtlessly treat each other like shit if they'd been through that crucible themselves.

Date: 2008-11-29 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meaculpa-g.livejournal.com
My early morning dreams almost always involve something apocalyptical or formidable. Bullets rain down from the sky and everything is oversized. I'm sure it has something to do with dominance, or maybe lack thereof.

I felt so sorry for all the people having to work yesterday. I've never worked in retail, but I did work in a pizza place in the mall, and, disgusting as it was, it was always pretty mental the day after Thanksgiving.

Date: 2008-11-29 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] razothredfire.livejournal.com
Working in retail gave me a distinct displeasure regarding the end of November and all of December. I like the core ideas behind Yule, the music, the decorations, etc. But for a holiday that's supposed to be about love and family and giving, it certainly has been corrupted. People are ruder, more violent and antagonistic to one another, greedy, and all-around mean spirited near Christmas than any other time of the year.

Just the fact that people die in stampedes to buy worthless trinkets tells you a great deal about our consumerist society. -.-

Date: 2008-11-29 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meaculpa-g.livejournal.com
Yeah, it makes you wonder why they would allow hundreds of people to cram up against the doors of Walmart, waiting for them to open. I guess they may have wanted some photo op of people surging through the doors? I don't know, but sometimes it seems like the powers that be willfully create these kinds of dangerous situations.

Date: 2008-11-30 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mukanshin.livejournal.com
The sad thing is if you really stop to think about there really is not a lot these stores can do to stop or control the hundreds of people that cram up against the side of the various business establishments. There's not enough police or security in the world to do that and I'm actually very surprised that even more people have not died, either previously or recently in these situations.

In the case of the unfortunate happenings at the Wal-Mart store, there was nothing that could have been done. When a group like that forms, it no longer becomes a group of (at least) semi-rational people, but a mob. With a mobs mentality. And once the beast gets moving, once the people in the back see the doors are open and push forward, there's nothing that can stop that force. If every person in the front row dug their heels in and screamed that someone was getting trampled it wouldn't have mattered, they themselves would be mowed over from the force of the people behind.

Really it was not the stores fault that poor man died, but the integral nature inherent in man. Our true nature coming out to play in the race for something that we want, but might not get. Something we want, but normally can't afford. Greed, aggression, brutality - the human race revealed for what it is, de-clothed of its civil trappings - a mindless, mad 'animal' only out for itself.

Even if the stores tried to curb the mob mentally or ease the strain of the stampeding by not having their sales start until after a few hours after the stores are even open you would still have mobs forming to bumrush the place the very moment the doors are unlocked to snatch up what they want and then stand around growling at each other, while clutching their oh so important crap to their chests.

There really is no way to win and not at the same time loose in these situations. You just have to try your best to make them as safe as possible and unfortunately that will not always be enough.

One shouldn't look to or blame consumerism or these stores when something like this happens, I think, but they should look towards themselves and take a really good long, hard look at what is buried beneath the veneer of a 'civilized society' and a 'civilized human being'.

...urrrm...Sorry for the rant. (>3<)

Also, I agree. I have worked in retail and it can be a real bitch when people forget how they're 'supposed to act' and just let their natural instincts take over. The real face of humanity. Kind of ironic it liking to rear its ugly little head in the season of cheer and good will towards ones fellow man.

Hypocrites the lot of us.

Date: 2008-12-03 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcaneamaranth.livejournal.com
When a group like that forms, it no longer becomes a group of (at least) semi-rational people, but a mob. With a mobs mentality. And once the beast gets moving, once the people in the back see the doors are open and push forward, there's nothing that can stop that force.

and this

Greed, aggression, brutality - the human race revealed for what it is, de-clothed of its civil trappings - a mindless, mad 'animal' only out for itself.

Funny, why does that remind me of

They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show ya'. When the chips are down these uh,...these civilized people? They'll eat each other.

Depressing but it's food for thought.

Date: 2008-11-29 05:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hamatokameko
I guess I was fortunate that when I worked on Black Friday last year, our store was no worse than a typical busy day. In fact, I think it was rather slow.

But yes, working retail is a good experience for everyone, I think.

All my dreams are weird. But once I start having nightmares, I know it's time to wake up. It's like having a built-in alarm clock.

...It sucks.

Date: 2008-11-30 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lalondon13.livejournal.com
Since I worked at Rite Aid for several years I agree with everything you said about trying to brighten the days of salesclerks and that everyone should have to work retail at some point in their lives. Even when I feel like crap I try to be the nicest customer they've dealt with that day.

Date: 2008-11-30 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] balcerzak.livejournal.com
Normal people dream normal things.
I think that's just flat-out untrue. Everybody has bat-shit insane dreams. At least at some point. Dreams are inherently random, crazy, illogical, and disconnected. This is not always a bad thing. This is not always a good thing.

Sorry to say I don't really have any "retail" experience, unless you count working at the caf, which I don't. ::hug::

Date: 2008-11-30 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] memoryofgravy.livejournal.com
Who or what are these 'normal' people you are refering to? *scratches head in bemusement*

But yes.. ah, dreams are terrifying, beautiful, stupid things. Yours sound BRILLIANT.
The last dream that I can remember having, blimey, ha, it was an Entropy dream. XD

I've never worked in retail per se, but it sounds like something I would fight tooth and nail to avoid having to do. But I do try to be nice to sales people, bless their little cotton socks, etc.. unless they genenrally act like dickweeds to me first. ¬_¬;
Then the game is ON.

And the holidays are indeed the most hilariously brutal time in the social calendar, especially laughable for it's title as the Season of Good Will. :)

Date: 2008-12-13 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weofodthignen.livejournal.com
I honestly think every adult, working person should be forced to spend at least 6 months working retail - preferably the worst retail position available. I think less people would thoughtlessly treat each other like shit if they'd been through that crucible themselves.

Don't bet on it! Some people seem to think, "I did my time, now it's my turn to make em miserable." It's a power thing. I think it says a lot about a person how they treat minimum-wage workers they deal with.

But actually this is one of the things the US does right--if you include waiting tables and fast food, the vast majority of Americans spend time in miserable service jobs when they're still young enough to draw conclusions. It breaks down social classes and contributes to the general niceness of Americans. The fact that so many are still pigs towards waitresses, maids, and McDonald's workers, in addition to the cashier in Walgreen's and the ticket seller at the movie theater, just demonstrates what pigs people can be.

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